I definitely think a security-oriented conversation would be useful. I noticed many recurring security/trust issues in the presentations, and I'd like to compare notes. I mentioned the possibility of such a meeting (and perhaps other cross functional meetings like virtualization) to David. He said that he'd bring it up with the planning group, but was concerned that our discussion would not feed back to the more traditional network folks. At worst, perhaps we can have a discussion during lunch or dinner tomorrow.